Some remarks about the early Fifty Fathoms

Nov 28, 2014,00:36 AM
 

I get more and more e-mails from collectors asking me questions about the early FF's in general, or questions about specific watches.

Apparently, some Rolex collectors are interested in Blancpain now and try to apply the "Rolex rules" to the world of 1950's FF's.

"What is the mk1 dial, the mk2 bezel, hown can I date my watch, are these hands correct for this dial", etc...

You people are in trouble, because from my 15 years experience of collecting these watches: 

- Blancpain does not have records anymore, so it is impossible to date a particular watch precisely. Besides, the number on the back has a different number of digits depending on the model and "customer" (Aqualung, LIP, Scubapro, etc...)... which does not make things easy

- these watches were produced in very low number - almost "by hand" - at the request of the buyer. It is not an "industrial" production like Rolex, so the dials, hands , bezels variations do not follow the same chronological logic as for other brands. I suspect the guys used different parts for every batch they made, just to drive the future collectors crazy ;-)

- most of these watches  - especially the early military ones -  were really abused of and not really waterproof. They had lots of parts replaced at service, so it is almost impossible to tell what is original or not on a particular watch.

The standardization of the FF's production arrived later in the 1960's - with the No Radiation variation - but the "Cousteau size" watches are a mess.

In other words, only a collector's experience, trained eyes and good personnal database can help.

Like in the good old days, before everyone could become an expert after 15 minutes on Google....LOL !!

 photo ff5.jpg This message has been edited by DrStrong on 2014-11-28 01:03:33


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All correct, Jeff.

 
 By: amanico : November 28th, 2014-01:19
Things are not easy when it comes to vintage FFs... Some references are well known, like the Barakuda or the No Rad, or the TR 900. But many others are more complex, and require a lot of work to be deciphered. They need even more " homework " than Vintage... 

History of the Fifty Fathoms

 
 By: jkingston : November 28th, 2014-09:34
Maybe a bit of good news. Blancpain has just published a massive book: Fifty Fathoms The Dive and Watch History 1953-2013. I wrote all of the watch chapters in the book. As much as we could we drew upon the memories of key people, principally Jean-Jacques... 

I had asked about this book at the Blancpain Boutique Place Vendome...

 
 By: Subexplorer : November 28th, 2014-11:09
... last Saturaday, and I was told that they had not the book at the moment, but were expecting to get it in a couple of weeks. Then, on Sunday past week end, while attending the Belles Montres expo at the Louvre, I met the people of the Editorial firm, w... 

Quite

 
 By: XX-FF : November 28th, 2014-09:48
I agree with you these FF are industrial objects made for intensive use (nothing more difficult than making a completely waterproof watch) results the few survivors that we now find ourselves often bear the traces of their adventurous life and it makes th... 

Well said, XX FF. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : November 28th, 2014-09:52

You could probably....

 
 By: DrStrong : November 28th, 2014-23:05
...write a book based on your collection only !

Great post Jeff! Enjoyed reading it! Definitively the FF is one of my grail watches!...

 
 By: Subexplorer : November 28th, 2014-11:11
... always nice to read information or hints about it! Cordial regards, Abel.

Good post Jeff

 
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