Fifty Fathoms – How LIP missed the chance

Nov 05, 2010,18:34 PM
 

Thanks to Blancpain, I had the opportunity to discuss with Robert Maloubier about the origin of the Fifty Fathoms.

As you may know, Robert Maloubier founded in the early 50ies the first French combat divers. But this is only a very limited experience with respect to his incredible life. When I read his biography, I was especially impressed by his youth when he joined the British Intelligence to support the Free French Force. But that is another story.

Going back to watches, I was also very interested in a quick extract of his biography : In the early 50ies, standards for diving watches were not yet defined. There were few waterproof watches, but none of them was really a professionnal diving instrument. Therefore, Robert Maloubier was considering a bespoke watch when he first contacted LIP, a famous French watchmaking firm.

The scene is described hereafter (sorry, it is in French):





credit : Robert Maloubier, Plonge dans l'or noir, espion !, Editions Robert Laffont, 1986


For non French speaker, in few words, Robert Maloubier explains that LIP first proposed a very small gold-filled watch with a massive domed crystal... very far from his requirements. Then, Robert asked if LIP would consider a dedicated production based on detailed specifications that he submitted : bigger watch, rotatable outer bezel, large numerals, LIP answered « No future »

When I met Rober Maloubier last week, I asked him about the LIP watch that was mentioned in his book. Did he remember the watch?
- Oh, yes, perfectly, he said
- Can I show show some photos?

I did not come with empty pockets. I had photos of a watch called LIP Abyssal. A watch that could match the description.


« Gold-filled watch »


 

« Small diameter »

The watch is about 35mm.


 

« Massive domed crystal »




Verdict : Yes. Robert Maloubier confirmed me that these photos show the exact same watch as the one proposed by LIP at that time.

I think this LIP Abyssal watch is very interesting because it illustrates how big the gap was at the very beginnning of the diving activity. Watchmakers were very far from the needs that divers could have.

It is not because you print a frog on the dial that you design a watch for frogmen! smile




The size of the domed crystal is also very impressive and smells like an experimental try. It also reminds me of the Rolex bathyscaphe with its huge domed crystal.


"Finally, a small watchmaking company, Blancpain, agreed to realize our project whose requirements were: black dial, bold large numerals and clear markings: triangles, circles, squares; a rotatable outer bezel which repeated the markings of the dial."

Who said: "No future?"


To conclude, I let you enjoy the inscription that Bob Maloubier kindly wrote on the book.




"Few marks of LIP
A lot of Blancpain
What's the big hurry?
As the Blancpain
is still here !
Kind regards,"

This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-11-05 23:24:56 This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-11-05 23:26:06 This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-11-11 09:51:35


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Very interesting post, Marv.

 
 By: amanico : November 5th, 2010-23:19
To be saved! I was intrigued by these few lines Mr Maloubier wrote and always wondered what could be this famous Lip he saw, Rue Royale... Thanks to this journey in Time, now we know! Mr Maloubier told us, with his natural humour, that you can find in his... 

Great Story

 
 By: grigo : November 6th, 2010-01:38
I really like this kind of history of watches. Best regards, George

Nice reading. Interesting.

 
 By: VMM : November 6th, 2010-02:10
It's always nice to read where an original concept comes from. Specially when we talk about watches. Thanks for sharing. Vte

Great Story

 
 By: cisco : November 6th, 2010-10:41
Thanks Christophe, interesting watch

Innovation is a messy business

 
 By: Nomer : November 7th, 2010-03:29
A very nice story and great example of how much of a challenge it can be to create new innovative objects of any sort. No future indeed!

interesting story...

 
 By: FanFrancisco : November 7th, 2010-07:26
... that is life: someone lost and some gained!!! Marv, thanks for sharing and filling the gap of our knowledge. stefan

fantastic piece of his horohistory

 
 By: Hororgasm : November 7th, 2010-12:18
thks fr sharing

What a great post, Marv!

 
 By: dxboon : November 8th, 2010-00:41
The dome on that LIP Abyssal is crazy! Imagine wearing something like that everyday. Thanks for sharing this rare piece of dive watch history! Cheers, Daos

Excellent detective work

 
 By: Ubik : November 8th, 2010-06:21
That's an brilliant piece of deduction Marv. Thanks for posting. BTW - it was a pleasure to meet you at the exhibition, do you know if the biography was translated into English? I would love to read more about his life story.

Thanks.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : November 8th, 2010-12:30
for posting.... It seems that LIP missed a big chance.... and Blancpain gained one... Cheers

Great post!

 
 By: Peter  : November 9th, 2010-01:49
Thanks for sharing

Late.. But hopefully not too late .. A MARVellous post, Merci !:)

 
 By: hs111 : July 30th, 2011-23:30
Stumbled on this, when browsing and also thanks to Nicolas, who kindly posted the link What a nice piece of history, personality and vision proving that the tides of time pass their own marks, on what is to be the 'future', often quite contraty to what is... 

Funny but how true! :) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : July 30th, 2011-23:32
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Lip Watch style

 
 By: daisy1 : April 28th, 2015-05:00
I rather like the old Lip divers watch, they may have missed an opportunity but their design stands out. I recently bought the last Lip LCD digital gold watch on and I love it. Actually it was a good investment too, though that's not why I bought it. It ...